It has been always been weird the contrived private ( and now personal -limited by email validationl) user and active user with in Glide with its own pricing.
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If the Makers need users, let alone those of us who use the Team and Business plans.
Dear, I believe that the main problem, as already expressed by the community, is the user limitations, undoubtedly the primary issue. I propose that users should be unrestricted on any plan, regardless of its price, as long as it is a paid plan. Charging for usage and updates, etc., would make it clear that those who use the service more should pay more, providing the best way to control usage. Monitoring updates and charging for them would be the fairest approach for everyone. Free users and payment based on usage is simple and fair.
The non-profit plan is being dropped? So my price will double overnight? Not every non-profit is huge, needing unlimited users. $25 was just about right for building internal tools for our non-profit. “Maker” would be good if our one App designed as an external-facing App could ever be released. But the update limits is what was preventing that (simply giving us local columns not saved in the database would have solved that for us – and it was one of the most-requested features on their “request feature” page). We began developing the App before there was ever an “update” limit. It was a “rows” limit, I believe.
But the bait-and-switch of the move to Pages without giving us the tool to migrate without rebuilding the entire App? And it makes it harder to understand the move when Glide moved the Classic Apps to the “same engine” as Pages. What was that needed for if Classic Apps cannot have the same power as Pages and are to be abandoned? If I have to rebuild from scratch, it would simply make sense to migrate to a different tool, albeit most of the alternatives have a technological learning curve I was hoping to avoid. But Retool still offers non-profit and educational plans. If your org. is not a big business, you’re not even on Appgyvers’ radar, and they just let you build. Or I can put my $25/mo into self-hosting using the tools I already know how to use to write web apps. I guess I will have to bite the bullet. It seems a shame because what I hear other people saying, Glide just does not want to hear.
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Posting again. Really disappointed with the low user limit for the business plan. Crazy.
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Existing plans are not affected.
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Glide Friends… I just back from looong holiday (three weeks in Lisbon) and… With new pricing, you just kill a lot of my ideas which I had to build in Glide. Pricing is superhighway, especially when you want to build some, let’s say, SAAS…
The worse thing is that I almost build my super-fancy tool selector, and few days ago I had option to choose: public or no. This was plan of my customer: lest go public will see, maybe we will require login. Today price for users is crazy.
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I’m baffled as well. I have clients that build an assessment tool that uses the domain emails of others… and their access is only for a short 1-2 days. Paying monthly doesn’t make any sense at all.
Another concern is, is Glide changed their pricing every 2 years, would they also do the same in future?
More questions to ponder…
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But they will be at some point. By then there’d probably be another price doubling as well. I guess that buys me time to make a switch.
But I started to build advanced tool (a lot of work) in totally different reality, now I stuck with my old plan - which is ok, but for some time…
As @David_Gabler is writing at some point all plans will change.
BUT IN GENERAL: this is the dark side of all SAAS. But in no-code platforms this is stronger. We spent long months sometimes on building apps. We choose particular platform because it is 25 bucks. After long&hard work you are ready to publish, but…
BUM! Since today our users can have email in gmail domain only. So cool!
But I must be honest: my app in PUBLIC version now can be free :)))) Sad thing is, that price for exactly same app with PRIVATE access goes to the moon.
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What happens with the starter plan $25 per month? That fits perfect w/ my needs for now, and $49 is very expensive…
Glide is a great product. I have been truly enjoying using it. It opens so many windows for me. But in the long run it needs to figure out whether its customers are software developers or business owners. It is hard to target both. Think about HomeDepot wants to be its own contractor. For end users like business owners or enterprises, they want a finished product, a solution, and you can charge them by users, by usage. I guess that is the trend today. But Glide is not a solution in itself, no matter how powerful it is and how it makes us believe we now have a new way to make all kinds of ideas happen. On the other hand, the differences between Maker, Team and Business plans are for a large part from a developer’s perspective. I want Business plan because of cool features like API call, CSS and some exclusive integrations, etc. But how do you convince business owners they need to pay for these developer features in addition to users and usages? It seems to me the new price structure is essentially asking business owners to double pay, and the work of developer is not even in it.
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For my use case my bill is increasing by $25/month, and my users are being cut from 5,000 to 20. I will not be paying to lose 4,800 users. That’s what I get when convert to the newest equivalent plan. I see you are making things more expensive for what you think are business users, and making your software more accessible for what you consider makers. I’m just one guy wanting to make software for my community, I need users. I’m embarrassed to think I will have tell my clients you can only log in with a consumer email (should I want more than 20 users at a reasonable price) - that is weird and not their concern. I’m not ‘tinkering’ and I’m not running and enterprise, but I am doing real things at an entrepreneur level, and you provide no plan for me, the business middle class.
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I think there is a lot of merit in what you’re saying. The main bulk of real Glide clients isn’t the companies themselves; they are unlikely to engage in application development, or so I would assume. Perhaps I’m mistaken. Here, the key, as I’ve always mentioned, is to invest in the large community of developers, regardless of their scale, as they are the ones bringing their projects to Glide and generally footing the bill for the tool. It’s essential to consider that we shouldn’t only factor in the platform’s cost; we must also take into account the developer’s work. The final cost equals the platform cost plus the developer’s cost, which encompasses not just coding but also consultancy and significant fieldwork to integrate Glide seamlessly into processes.
I want to emphasize once again: FREE USERS, fair plans, and CHARGING BASED ON USAGE. This would make it a completely balanced approach, and it would likely lead to a significant increase, perhaps even a doubling, in the influx of new developers to the platform. Some have left due to this issue, and there are several YouTube videos discussing the matter.
I think there is a lot of merit in what you’re saying. The main bulk of real Glide clients isn’t the companies themselves; they are unlikely to engage in application development, or so I would assume. Perhaps I’m mistaken. Here, the key, as I’ve always mentioned, is to invest in the large community of developers, regardless of their scale, as they are the ones bringing their projects to Glide and generally footing the bill for the tool. It’s essential to consider that we shouldn’t only factor in the platform’s cost; we must also take into account the developer’s work. The final cost equals the platform cost plus the developer’s cost, which encompasses not just coding but also consultancy and significant fieldwork to integrate Glide seamlessly into processes.
I want to emphasize once again: FREE USERS, fair plans, and CHARGING BASED ON USAGE. This would make it a completely balanced approach, and it would likely lead to a significant increase, perhaps even a doubling, in the influx of new developers to the platform. Some have left due to this issue, and there are several YouTube videos discussing the matter.
FYI, from knack.com:
PS Not comparing features, prices etc., just showing how one competitor deals with users.
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This is x3 for privates users pricing and x30 for publics users, are you joking ??
I agree. Maker plan allows for unlimited personal users. So cost must not be a problem. Glide can charge extra now because it’s a good product, but it sure leaves the door open for competitors.
How to import Google Sheet instead connect data? If I can do that, I think I could change to the new free plan from the old starter plan
To use a Google Sheet with the new free plan, you’d have to download your GSheet as a CSV or Excel file, and then import it to your new project. Once imported, Glide converts it to a Glide Table and you can build your app using its data.
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