All paid plans include whitelabeling for all apps
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I understand your point of view perfectly. Let me tell you, for the past 25 years, I’ve been developing custom software for companies, much like what Glide does today, but with clean code. I’ve been working in this field since the old and beloved version of Visual Basic 6, through C#, ASP.net, PHP, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, MySQL, SQL Server, and a long list of modern technologies used today, including React, Angular, Tailwind CSS styling, and more. Currently, I work with a low-scale SaaS application. That’s why I can confidently say that when I found Glide, it seemed like an excellent tool due to the incredible speed at which an MVP is created and the extensive possibilities it offers to users in its implementation. However, it falls short in many aspects. I’ve been trying to implement a real project with it for a while now and haven’t been successful.
Now, in this discussion and after reading all the comments, it simply seems to me that there should be no user limitations in any plan, and instead, heavily monetize updates to make it fair. In my opinion, that’s the solution. I don’t have an in-depth understanding of their business model, but I believe it’s possible. If they did it in Make, they can extend it to the other, much more expensive plans.
That’s really interesting, I need to think about it: your take would be to include unlimited users on all plans and to charge usage only.
Charging usage definitely makes sense when taking into account that the usage from one user to another might differ greatly. But look at yourself when you work within a team: everyone’s usage of any software the team uses is different, and yet the cost per seat is the same.
Question: software companies think about their business models a lot, nothing here is random. How is it that Microsoft, Google, Salesforce and basically just about every other established software company out there charge per seat (or active seat) per month or year? I think the answer is in the question really: usage does not guarantee monthly or annual recurring revenue, and that is what these companies are interested in.
Right, that’s true, it was confusing to understand
This is value for money. 
Slowly but surely as these plans are getting unpacked (explained better) there seems to be some underlying value in each plan…
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@nathanaelb I so wished I had paid a bit more attention. I just checked out the query column and that pretty much could fit the gap on functionality!!! Thank you. I guess I’ll carry on for now using google sheets but will rebuild slowly. Incidentallly do you know if we can somehow do a delete of records from one table based on the fitlered results in another table where query is being used to filter data from the original table?
I think your request deserves a new topic. This current topic is about the new plans and pricing.
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Yep. And it’s on us to make that value a lot clearer. 
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Dear, my response might not have been clear. Not only charge for usage but also charge their plans monthly and according to the features at a differential price, as they have done so far. A base price for each type of plan, free users, and charge for updates and storage. Finding the right business model is challenging, but Glide’s main issue has always been user limitations. If they remove this constraint, they can solve a significant problem and potentially discover a much more profitable business model.
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They mentioned they were going to present a new commercial proposal this week. Do we already know if there is a specific date to find out about the new plans, especially for those who have ongoing discussions with potential clients on hold?
In my opinion, the users you mentioned for MS, Google, and Salesforce aren’t comparable to the users you’re referring to in Glide’s apps. The actual “users” in Glide would be the app editors (where it makes sense to charge per app editor), and the users Glide is charging now are the app editor’s customers.
A better comparison would be comparing Glide’s users to Shopify customers. Shopify doesn’t charge per customer, but per site editors, the number of sites in one account, the number of transactions, inventory size, and so on.
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2 posts were split to a new topic: What happened to public users?
Very logical.
Also logical.
@Robert_Petitto Dear Roberto, I take this opportunity to greet you and express my admiration for your work in spreading free knowledge to help others improve. The point is that throughout this thread, reading and analyzing, I manage to understand, as it also happens to me, that the main obstacle to creating successful, scalable applications that also generate economic income is the issue of users. While the part of Glide and its revenue is defended, we must also greatly value the work of the entire developer community and their income, as they also use Glide as a platform for their new projects.
Glide is often seen as a platform where services are used by companies that hire them. I am unaware of their numbers, but I have doubts that small business owners would engage in development when there are agencies and freelancers who specialize in it and train with Glide. And no matter how easy it may seem, it involves a significant learning curve. On the other hand, the number of large companies adopting Glide does so to strengthen their development teams and achieve good results in automation.
Without intending to discuss competition, which is also mentioned on Glide’s page, and with the respect they deserve as a company, I can understand that today the main problem affecting everyone is users. The Make plan is great, as users with public emails are free, not those from companies. Ultimately, this is very manageable in the context of applications generated for users without corporate emails.
Finally, I read again an argument from @nathanaelb where he mentions giant companies like Google, Microsoft, etc., that bring others to their knees. They use a subscription model not comparable or applicable to Glide in any way since they charge per individual user. In the case of Microsoft Office, it’s 5 users per paid account for just $6 + 1TB of storage. Notion charges $10 and is incredible for internal business automation with unlimited storage. Google charges $3 for 200GB of storage on Drive, and I could name many examples of all types and fees since I work on it daily, seeking and optimizing the best automation solutions.
Therefore, the comparison of fee/user for Glide is $5 in Team and $10 in Business, plus an additional $310 per month that neither Microsoft, nor Google, nor Amazon charge. So, the models of Glide and these other companies are not comparable from any point of view.
I just wanted to clarify this because this comparison is used, and we are not talking about the same products or business models. I only hope that Glide can make a significant change in its business model because it is essentially a tool with an incredible future and deserves my utmost respect, as do all others.
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I completely agree. I share your concerns regarding the shift from a generous amount of users on legacy plans to the seemingly stifling amount of included users on the new plans.
From what I can tell, Glide is positioning themselves as THE no code tool to build internal apps for your company. These are the companies they are selling to because these are the companies that are going to fund Glide and their mission to create 1B developers (which won’t happen overnight…it will take years and a substantially larger staff). If Glide hopes to be sustainable and grow and profit, they need to target larger companies. Don’t confuse this with greediness—Glide isn’t altering pricing because they’re trying to line their pockets…they’re altering pricing to ensure they can be successful and continue providing this amazing service.
At the same time, Glide wants to continue to provide plans that accommodate hobby, startup, education, and other types of B2C apps — hence the Maker plan (which I suspect [hope?] one day might be bolstered by other types of pay-as-you-go features).
Glide could have easily said, “we’re focusing only on internal tools — no longer are we supporting B2C apps”, (it would have been easier for them) but Glide still sees the bigger picture and decided to offer a generous Maker plan to allow hobbyists and entrepreneurs the opportunity to continue developing with Glide.
All this to say, I’m not 100% convinced that the new pricing and the respective feature sets are optimal (by comparison, they aren’t as attractive or accommodating as the legacy plans), but I know they’re doing what they feel is best to secure the “incredible future” you mention.
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This 
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I build admin apps for everything - so much easier to manage data that way.
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Slightly concerned the Glide staff are defaulting to ‘these are launch issues, we just need to better explain the value (& focus on corporates)’. Very patronizing.
And to suggest a seat as an editor is the same as a seat as a user is just plain delusional.
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I’m in listening mode too 
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I’m in waiting mode.
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