To be clear @kingzy, people with legacy plans were just moved to the Business plan, with all new features, and were given the same price that they were paying before. So, if you had a Legacy Pro app for $32/mo, you were given our new Business Team plan for $32/mo. This was 18 months after we announced the new Team plans. Same price, much larger plan, 18 months.
These changes pull the rug out from underneath the exact users that got Glide to where it is today.
To shaft the small scale devs and people who use Glide for personal and work apps in favour of capitalising on increased revenue from the enterprise-size customers that can afford it clearly shows a shift in Glides’s mission.
They’re changing from putting “the power, beauty, and magic of software development into the hands of a billion new creators” to putting the money, money, and money of non-sensical pricing into the hands of themselves.
And you know what sucks the most? They have the market cornered, so they can do it. I’ve checked out the competition and I can’t use any of the Glide alternatives to replicate the functionality I need.
Guess we just remain at the mercy of an organization who appear to have completely forgotten the reason they got into this market, and hope we get more than the indicated three months warning when they decide to scrap the legacy plans.
Gross, Glide.
Gross.
I was UPSET at first, then DISAPPOINTED at the fact that I wasted my time building solutions on a platform that is no longer viable for anyone from a 3rd World country…
Glide is mostly manageable (cost-wise) for people in the US or the EU, maybe that is their target market, Fair enough to them as a business entity.
Now I am CALM and have made PEACE with it, because I just realised that all of THIS won’t matter in 6 month’s time or even less…
AGI is already here…
This is the biggest pain point I’m hearing across the board.
@Robert_Petitto I’d be interested to hear how this would affect your Glidings.
Imagine having sold in the morning (yesterday) a timeshare solution for a resort with 1.764 members who are supposed to login to view read-only information.
Yesterday morning this would cost the client $249 for the Business Plan plus the cost for some extra users.
Yesterday afternoon it could be something close to $9.000 for the same service offered!!!
Order will be cancelled for sure if this madness will not be rectified.
this heavily affects the medium sized users.
Alright!
We’ve updated the initial post with some clarification and FAQs.
On a personal note:
Thank you all for piling in and containing the responses to a single thread. It makes it a lot easier for me to track + pass your comments back to the team.
@Robert_Petitto I don’t know if you and a handful of other Glide veterans have any back channel communications with the folks at Glide, but If you do, please encourage them to rethink their pricing strategy for users.
One of the biggest opportunities I see in the marketplace, is creating client portals for businesses. This is the type of app Glide wants people to make - Internal business apps. Providing custom client portals to businesses is a win/win opportunity for everyone. The business wins, business customers win, the company creating the portal wins, and Glide wins. But none of this is feasible with Glide if businesses have to pay for customers accessing their portals.
Thank you for all the contributions you have made educating people about Glide. I’ve referenced your videos many times, and will continue to do so, as long as I’m a Glider.
Among many other points, I would add that excluding the Glide API for the Maker plan is just a KILLER for many of us who could transition from Pro/Business to Maker.
Our family name is Gr------e and we use gr------e.com for all of our personal emails e.g. michael@, helena@.
Under the new plans this would mean that none of our family members could ever use any Free or Maker apps because we decided to use our own domain name and email server instead of something like Gmail, Outlook etc…
.And you’re not the only one who runs into that.
It is so not user-friendly. Indeed I haven’t seen anything like this in the past year . But well apparently thought out by glide to eliminate many apps
I mean, it makes developing client portals for SMBs much pricier, but for companies that are only looking to create solutions for internal employees, I have no qualms.
I agree. In our back channels, this has been brought up a few times over the past 24 hours.
Ideally, there would be a way to separate “internal users” from “clients”, but I don’t see how that would be possible. There would certainly be businesses that use it as a loophole to allow their employees access without paying.
I think this is an important focus to work on! For example, we have an app for our investors who in some cases use their companies’ business email. 20 users is really limiting, also if we switched to a business plan!
This is on point!
I can appreciate Glide’s concerns about people taking advantage of loopholes. I will refrain from making any suggestions as I do not know how Glide is structured on the back end.
Ultimately, Glide will have to figure this one out. Whether this is something they can do quickly or over the course of months, I believe they should set a course to rectify this, and communicate their intentions to customers ASAP. Perhaps this is not an issue for them, and that is fine too. But with all the questions and concerns regarding this, they should address it publicly so customers know how to proceed.
These pricing changes have created a fork in the road for me - do I continue with Glide or not? I really want to, but I’m not sure it will be feasible. I know I’m not alone in this predicament.
For enterprise portal applications where clients can access special functions designed for them, perhaps the ‘make’ plan would be suitable. It provides unlimited access for clients with public emails, a good number of updates, and the option to purchase more. The only limitation is on storage; if your clients need to upload files, it may not be sufficient. I’ve asked another moderator if it’s possible to also opt for extra storage, similar to choosing users and updates. Consider it; it might be a good option for your clients. An app priced at $60 per company sounds profitable. Greetings.
After chewing over this change of plans for 24 hours, there are several conclusions that are obvious to me.
Glide is betting exclusively on enterprise solutions, not open to the general public. At this point, I think the number of private users should be increased… 20 is not enough.
The jumps of features from one plan to another make it impossible to choose the most suitable one, I’ll take you here, I’ll give you there… a game of cheaters.
Glide departs from the idea that “nocode” allows anyone to create. The free plan is a carrot in front of a horse. It’s worthless for anything other than convincing you to update.
Glide wants agencies, not small developers.
I don’t understand why there are things allowed in cheaper plans that are not allowed in the more expensive ones (unlimitted public users).
But more than all this… and understanding that you can do with your company what you want, there are things that are not ethical, or I don’t consider ethical in my business.
- you don’t change contractual conditions without a minimum notice period. I would have upgraded my plan yesterday. But of course, that’s probably what they wanted to avoid.
- The conditions are unclear, the terms confusing… maybe they are following the bubble strategy of seeing how far people will swallow, and then partially backing out.
- They just threw the exceptional brand image they had to the ground, and the worst thing is that they are sowing doubt in the users. Who guarantees that this will not happen again in three months, when they have to raise another round of funding.
- The fact of not saying clearly the term that the legacy plan is going to last x months… how can a developer sell this idea to a customer. Customers want certainty, not possibilities.
- Multiple apps are going to go at prices that will clearly lead to building with code which will make monthly costs, once the development is paid for, practically nil compared to the glide option…
The management of the change has been the worst I have seen in a long time, really. those responsible for making the new princing, and communicating it, honestly, should feel ashamed for the work done.
Hi David, you know I admire the way you handle criticism and the persistent reasoning of people seeking to improve their quality of life with the possibility offered by Glide to No Code developers. In my personal experience, I tried a few times to bring some Glide applications to my real clients. Honestly, it seems fantastic. I am a user of other tools, and I always keep an eye on Glide, but I haven’t found the right fit to make it a reality yet.
Let me tell you, I live in Latin America, in a small country, Uruguay, where the economy is stable but far from the USA or the EU. That’s why we strive to digitize businesses to improve the quality of life for everyone. Today, the toughest point here is Glide’s new fees and the impact on businesses built on your platform and their desperation. Obviously, for now, everyone should be calm. Their costs won’t change, but in the future, many of these current ventures will undoubtedly go bankrupt.
I was precisely analyzing a case I have with a barbershop that is managed with WordPress, but I have always wanted to transition it to Glide. However, I’m restricted by the limited users, which becomes expensive since they currently have 1500 registered users. Obviously, not all of them are active every month. Now, I can potentially do it for $60, which is great. The only drawback is the storage, which could be an additional option, just like users and updates in plans higher than Make.
This whole movement is from concerned people who love the application, like everyone here. We believe they are honest people and that, for some reason, they are changing the business model. They must have strong reasons, I imagine. I just hope that the requests of everyone are taken into consideration, and perhaps a little more can be given, at least for the same price as today. The main issue for everyone is the users, and in Make, they are free, but there should be at least more apps, maybe three would be an excellent option. Especially for that group of small developers, myself included, who work every day to eventually create a sustainable agency with a partner like Glide.
My greetings, and I hope you consider the voices of your community for the benefit of all. Thank you.