Glide taught us how to do it, even with explainer videos
Yes, it was designed as fun way to learn Glide, recreating a familiar app. We did not intend for you to actually launch your own Instagram competitor. I promise we never viewed Instagram clones as a business.
Now, if you want a private Instagram for your companyāthatās a great use of Glide!
Something else: Iām glad the focus is going to be on making Glide (even) easier to use. What I see working with people learning to make apps is that there is room for improvement for beginners!
On the upside we could be like all my Bubble colleagues or even āMakeā colleagues that are running for the hills and looking for alternatives. I am grateful there was nothing that dramatic from Glide and I still believe there is something on the table for all types of users. Kudos to all involvedā¦
What happened to āMakeā?
Since they changed from Integromat to āMakeā a lot of people are not happy with the pricing and I mean a significant lot. In the community everyday there is a couple of people announcing their departure. I know that may not be a true reflection of the underlying numbers but the number of frustrated clients since the change is hugeā¦A lot are even viewing Zapier as being attractive and yet it was viewed as being more expensive before this transition.
I know the transition of my few projects was very shakey ā so I am glad I had not integrated more at that time. I would not even need them if I wasnāt trying to provide some type of user notification into my app.
These platforms tend to start with simplistic and very low pricing models to attract new users from competitors, then become more expensive as they mature, and the cycle continues
Our first pricing was a flat $29/mo per app, no matter what you did with it. I canāt tell you how painful it was when we learned a company with $30B of annual revenue was paying $29/mo for a Glide app for 5,000 employees (we were likely losing money on this app). Somehow, we need that kind of customer to pay us more, while keeping the free and low-end tiers.
Thereās also the challenge of making sure we charge more than apps cost us to run. We have some apps that cost us thousands of dollars per month, because they have so many users editing so much data. If we merely priced these at cost, the community would surely come up with many interesting theories about how we donāt care about anyone but big businesses!
Itās a hard puzzle!
That is part of the puzzle that some people have tried to solve for you. For example, Iāve seen threads on how to host images/documents on Google Drive (Iāve bookmarked them for later) instead of using the glide image storage. How about make that easy with an app setting to use xxxx Google Drive and a link/login to that drive. I realize this is not the forum for solving issues, etc. Iām just bringing in one example that could reduce Glideās cost. Another would be to pass on the database storage cost to the user by linking in Firebase ā¢.
Iām just chock full of ideasā¦
Storage is not a significant costāadding and editing row data, and updating changes from your sheet, is the main cost. That functionally cannot be moved to another service.
Also, a product where you bring your own database and storage is just a lousy one. Most users donāt want to make their own Firebase account, and edit the security permissions there to implement the security model, etc.
One thing about an app that serves up content is that it is once-in. Iām the app designer but also the chief data-entry specialist for this app. I guess you would call my app low-cost, then, even though it is loaded with images.
When I was first building, before I found Glide, that was the only option under AppGyver (may still be for all I know). For those that are willing, it could still reduce cost.
I dont think people have an issue with paying $99 a month as long as it was clear that was the price point when they started. The issue now is that there are many currently paying $24 per month for an app that will see a 400% increase. Thats the unreasonable part. And the work is done, the users are on those apps and now its either pay 4 times the money are start again elsewhere.
Very much appreciate the efforts to explain why the new pricing model works better. And it makes perfect sense. Its kinda shocking news for me though.
But based on what was explained on this thread that we are on, those that currently have pro Apps running wonāt be affected by the price change as yet. They will still be able to stay on those plans.
There is also the starter package for $25 per month and you can now publish 5 Apps & pages with that package. I think thatās quite generous for starting and then you can scale with the plan as your needs grow and you upgrade to Pro and then maybe later to business depending on your needs.
Yes, itās true that we designed this pricing to benefit people building multiple apps the most. If you are just building one app, this is likely not an improvement for you.
Fair enough. I appreciate your candor.
Better start thinking of new ideas for other pro apps to try and get some value from my $99.
Keep in mind, weāve also designed this pricing to make room for new products beyond apps. We have Glide Pages as well now, and I expect us to release āGlide Automationsā next year (e.g. Actions that you can run on an automatic schedule). We can naturally add these to the new plans, where they would not make any sense on pricing based on the number of apps you create.
Automations? Ok, now weāre talking! Thats interesting.
Yeah but 25$ for one app like glide app or glide page is really not expensive.
If you compare to Adalo :
You have just 50 row on FREE plan and after is beggining at 50$ For one app.
Bubble is start at 29$.
But i donāt think is easy to make an app like glideā¦
many here are complaining about this new team plan but no one is forcing you to use glide.
They are right to favor this type of plan, many of us will create an app for users and an administrator app for example.
I think glide wants to focus on companies that need to develop apps for several different uses within the same company and they are right for a question of stability and long-term improvement.
long live glide !
I think many of you are also overlooking what I expect to be the most controversial aspect of these plansāupdates. I donāt think we made this clear in the original post.
The new Pro Team plan includes unlimited apps and pages, and these can use 10,000 updatesāthese are row edits, row adds, row deletes, and one update each time your app syncs with a Google Sheet, Airtable base, or Excel file. Using the new Glide API to change data will also consume updates. If you use more than 10,000 updates, you will be able to buy more.
We think the number of included updates will get people pretty farāespecially if you use Glide Tables, which do not need to be syncedābut if you build apps with thousands of users editing thousands of rows, that costs quite a lot to run, and the updates are what will make this all work.
You will see how many updates your projects use, and have full control over whether to upgrade to higher plans (Business includes 50k updates) or buy more updates.