Just saw it. Awesome interview, indeed
Deep. Insightful. No b*. To the point.
I knew how to pronounce Siegel (the German sound) 
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And happily surprised by the mindfulness part.
Good point, @grumo (thks for the vid, BTW 
) to mention it takes 2 hours to just install and set up a “traditional” app dev environment before even starting. I can add: And provided you know how to install and set up. That used to be a prior skill to master too. I remember and can relate to that.
Relieved also to build my apps that will stay consistent to the Glide positioning: though I love the “dark” wording. Too bad it’s no longer used. Dommage. It implies so much more badass and closer to people’s genuine passion than “conventional” softwares.
As a bonus, I even got precious info for Product Management.
Thks a lot, Darren 