# Why does Glide Tables count syncs? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask for Help\ **Created:** [April 9, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337 "2023-04-09T17:57:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/1 "2023-04-09T17:57:45Z")
I’m using Glide Tables and the docs say: `The benefit of using Glide Tables is that you will never incur any Syncs.` and `Use Glide Tables if you can because Glide Tables do not use any Syncs.` But I have syncs counted to my updates quota when I don’t even use an external data source. ---
**Author:** ![Uzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/uzo/32/22639_2.png) [@Uzo](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Uzo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/2 "2023-04-09T18:19:24Z")
😉 How else can they make $ ? That’s why I use external data sources… so I don’t have syncs. ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/3 "2023-04-09T18:33:45Z")
They make money from adds, edits and deletes but I thought we don’t pay for syncs when using Glide Tables. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Hager](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/jeff_hager/32/43_2.png) [@Jeff\_Hager](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Jeff_Hager)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/4 "2023-04-09T18:33:45Z")
Can you show a screenshot of your usage? Do you have any other apps in your team folder that are connected to Google sheets or other external data sources ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/5 "2023-04-09T18:36:38Z")
I don’t have any other apps. My app sync mode is set to normal btw. Here’s the screenshot: ![Screenshot 2023-04-09 at 21.35.17](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/e/2/e217019913ba4507c4a2610ac08d42c2578f27ae.png) ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/6 "2023-04-09T18:57:13Z")
Are you using Big Tables? We are working on a better view of updates soon. ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/7 "2023-04-09T19:07:50Z")
I was doing some tests with Big Tables, so yes. Do Big Tables use syncs or is it just a glitch? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/8 "2023-04-09T19:22:52Z")
Big Tables use syncs, even just for reading them. ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/9 "2023-04-09T19:54:59Z")
Ah, I see. Do you have any plans on reducing those syncs on Big Tables because it may result in an awful amount of updates? I always looked at Big Tables as Glide Tables but just bigger. I would assume that the goal is to make them work identically, well at least on the surface. ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/10 "2023-04-09T20:09:59Z")
We plan to evaluate how many syncs are used once Big Tables is released and used in practice before making any changes. What’s your use case? ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/11 "2023-04-09T20:34:27Z")
I’m building a project management app. Using Big Tables only as an archive is not an option for me because the number of active projects/tasks etc will most probably exceed the 25k row limit of Glide Tables. ---
**Author:** ![Guy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/guy/32/55773_2.png) [@Guy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/12 "2023-04-09T21:07:22Z")
Please must understand 🙏 **Do you require SYNC on BIG TABLES as well?** **And also only if I watch the table in the FRONT END?** **It’s already excessive all these hefty charges** **You have already created a lot of counts for charges in Usage** That’s why the SYNC in my account flies to tens of thousands of SYNC (And I didn’t work with a third party!!!) ---
**Author:** ![Guy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/guy/32/55773_2.png) [@Guy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/13 "2023-04-09T21:50:39Z")
**WOOOOW** 🫥 I even checked that I was only viewing the BIGTABLE page **He counts and obliges us in SYNC** What is it, **how can we work like this** **It depletes the Usage bank very quickly** **and will cause excessive costs** **Why don’t we work with BIG TABLES for free** **Until GLIDE’s known line limit was finally resolved** **Is that how you do it?** **and for the Business PLAN package** **You have limited rows to only 25,000 - 100,000 rows** **In my opinion, much more should be given to such a PLAN** **------------------------------** **You have already created a lot of counts for charges in Usage** **And all kinds of limitations of Public Users \ Private Users** **And another whitelabeling limit** **which should not be at all for a customer in a payment plan** **How much will it cost us in the end? Hold projects in GLIDE** ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/14 "2023-04-09T21:52:54Z")
@Guy please be professional or I will ban you. ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/15 "2023-04-10T05:18:50Z")
He does have a point though. There are simply too many limitations. Even if you have the most basic app, scaling it could be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![s1mple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@s1mple](https://community.glideapps.com/u/s1mple)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/16 "2023-04-10T07:16:56Z")
btw Syncs on Big Tables keep growing without even being used in the app, just for existing. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/system/32/53398_2.png) [@system](https://community.glideapps.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 7:17am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/why-does-glide-tables-count-syncs/60337/17 "2023-04-11T07:17:29Z")
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