# Updates to Glide’s new plans and pricing
**URL:** https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027
**Category:** General
**Tags:** community-update
**Created:** [January 25, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027 "2024-01-25T15:19:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Benjamin_Sabbah)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/151 "2024-02-09T10:09:42Z")
1 - Go on this page : [Flexible Pricing Plans That Scale With Your Business | Glide](https://www.glideapps.com/pricing) =\> Pricing Calculator =\> Maker Plan. Click on “i” next to updates. That’s why I asked.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 10:17am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/152 "2024-02-09T10:17:35Z")
Yes, I know what updates are but I’m still not clear what your previous question is asking. Changes made to native tables don’t count as updates unless they are made via the API. So you can make a million changes a day if you want, and as long as those changes are not made via the API, they won’t count as updates.
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### Author:  [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Benjamin_Sabbah)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 10:21am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/153 "2024-02-09T10:21:13Z")
1 - Said like this it is clear to me. Thanks.
2 - Regarding user limits we can argue that the user limit is 25k users since a user table can only be a basic glide table, right ?
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/154 "2024-02-09T10:28:20Z")
> [@Darren\_Murphy](#):
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> > [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> > Means that info on the website must be updated.
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> Sorry, I don’t understand. Which website?
ah, the penny just dropped for me. You were referring to the definition of updates on the Glide Pricing page. And yes, you’re right. The tooltip on the Pricing Calculator is not completely clear, and is inconsistent with similar tooltips elsewhere on the page. I’ll bring this to the attention of the appropriate folks at Glide. Thanks 👍
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 10:47am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/155 "2024-02-09T10:47:15Z")
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> Regarding user limits we can argue that the user limit is 25k users since a user table can only be a basic glide table, right ?
Effectively, yes.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/156 "2024-02-09T17:17:39Z")
> [@Darren\_Murphy](#):
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> The tooltip on the Pricing Calculator is not completely clear, and is inconsistent with similar tooltips elsewhere on the page. I’ll bring this to the attention of the appropriate folks at Glide. Thanks 👍
Just to close the loop on this, that tooltip has been updated.
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### Author:  [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Benjamin_Sabbah)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2024, 9:38am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/157 "2024-02-11T09:38:56Z")
Thanks.
Written “Glide API alse use updates”. Is it true for Basic API or call API or both ?
Moreover, I have 2 questions regarding rows and users limitations of glide :
1/ written on the documentation of glide that it is possible to have 1 000 000 users. But User table is always a glide basic table which is capped at 25K rows right ?
2/ written on the documentation that Glide Big tables contain millions of rows. But the business plan allow only 100 K rows. So how to get millions of rows ?
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2024, 9:55am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/158 "2024-02-11T09:55:51Z")
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> Written “Glide API alse use updates”. Is it true for Basic API or call API or both ?
These are two completely different things.
- Basic API: This is the Glide API, that allows you to add/edit/delete rows from an external source. Each add/edit/delete uses one update. Learn more [here](https://www.glideapps.com/docs/essentials/data-sources/getting-started-with-the-glide-api).
- Call API: This is an integration that allows you to make secure authenticated API calls from your Glide App to external API services. It’s restricted to Business plan and above. Learn more [here](https://www.glideapps.com/docs/automation/integrations/call-api).
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> 1/ written on the documentation of glide that it is possible to have 1 000 000 users. But User table is always a glide basic table which is capped at 25K rows right ?
If you expect to have more than 25k users, I would suggest reaching out to Glide Sales to discuss options.
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> 2/ written on the documentation that Glide Big tables contain millions of rows. But the business plan allow only 100 K rows. So how to get millions of rows ?
To go above 100k rows, you would need to move to an Enterprise Plan. Again, best to contact Glide Sales to discuss your requirements.
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### Author:  [@Darcy\_N](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darcy_N)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/159 "2024-02-13T05:29:18Z")
I have been watching Glide for a bit and determining if its the right platform to begin my projects. Kinda decided it was because of the user content and help available.
I also took the “Innovator Quiz,” and it turns out I’m a Builder. Good, let’s get building!!
Then I had some questions about the applicable use and came to the community. I started browsing this thread, and holy smokes… I’m as confused as a kangaroo in a snowstorm !!
So, some background and what I’m up to for hopefully some clarity answers.
I am a farmer who has some ideas for 10 apps that would center around a main app. These apps are specific to soil health and carbon sequestration.
- I might not off the hop, but if I understand,I have no way of capitalizing on these apps other than to offer my building and idea skills?
- each individual farmer would not have his own data base if my user?
- to talk the user into implementing the app into their business I have to talk them into Glide?
- API, in my case, would be imperative but only comes with Enterprise.? It seems to me that APIs are the key to seamless data communication.
I opinion for what it’s worth. The model in the hands of a billion users is a good one certainly, but it takes away the Innovator “Entrepreneur” Builder. If I had to pull numbers out of my ear … I have 100 farmers that like the app only 2 are going to further develop in Glide.
Maybe a compromising solution is to have the Maker plan with a Glide “charge for access (5% transaction fee)”.
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### Author:  [@Darcy\_N](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darcy_N)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/160 "2024-02-13T06:07:22Z")
And give the devs all the tools they need to make great apps to bolster Glides revenue so they can offer the 99% non-coders more for free!
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/161 "2024-02-13T06:49:45Z")
> [@Darcy\_N](#):
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> each individual farmer would not have his own data base if my user?
Row Owners can be used to effectively segregate user data.
> [@Darcy\_N](#):
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> API, in my case, would be imperative but only comes with Enterprise.?
Not true. Team, Business & Enterprise Plans all provide access to the Glide API.
If you are referring to the Call API feature (that allows you to make API calls to external services), then that is only available with Business & Enterprise. However, you can use Trigger Webhook in combination with a tool like Make to effectively do the same thing.
I’ll leave your remaining two points for others to address.
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### Author:  [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Benjamin_Sabbah)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/162 "2024-02-13T09:30:21Z")
I have a request about the Maker Plan :
Since unlimited user is possible with this plan, it means it will be big apps. The row limit of 25 000 is quite low in that case.
Would it be possible to extend it or to buy extra rows once the limit is reached ?
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### Author:  [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Benjamin_Sabbah)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/163 "2024-02-13T09:41:43Z")
Thanks @Darren_Murphy for your quick answer.
1 - Please do you know it row limits is per app or only for one plan ?
2 - What about personal users for the Team Plan, is it 20 for the whole plan or 20 per app ?
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### Author:  [@nathanaelb](https://community.glideapps.com/u/nathanaelb)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/164 "2024-02-13T09:41:56Z")
On Maker, extra updates can be purchased, just not extra rows.
As far as I understand the plans, all three Free, Maker and Team can leverage spreadsheet data sources only (Google Sheets, Excel, Airtable) and not scalable data sources such as SQL. Regardless of the number of users. So in their very nature, apps on Free, Maker and Team are not meant to truly scale.
The Maker plan is $600 per year (or $6000 per decade) for an app that a community of “unlimited” users can access. If the app can run on 25k rows or less, Maker does give us quite a bit already at a reasonable price.
I would not be surprised if in the future, the 25k limit will be raised, especially on Glide Tables. But this is only speculation on my part.
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### Author:  [@nathanaelb](https://community.glideapps.com/u/nathanaelb)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 9:48am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/165 "2024-02-13T09:48:29Z")
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> 1 - Please do you know it row limits is per app or only for one plan ?
Row limits are per app.
The Free and Maker plans include 1 published app (one on each plan). The Team, Business and Entreprise plans include unlimited apps.
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> 2 - What about personal users for the Team Plan, is it 20 for the whole plan or 20 per app ?
The Team plan, as well as the Business plan, include 20 users across all apps on the plan. Extra users can be purchased ($4 monthly per user on Team, $8 monthly per user on Business).
For example, if you purchase a Team plan and expect to have 30 active users monthly:
- 20 users are included in the plan, there is no charge for these
- 10 extra users will cost 10 x $4 = $40 monthly.
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### Author:  [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Benjamin_Sabbah)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 9:50am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/166 "2024-02-13T09:50:00Z")
Thanks Nathanael
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 9:50am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/167 "2024-02-13T09:50:47Z")
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> Please do you know it row limits is per app or only for one plan ?
Row limits are per App.
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> What about personal users for the Team Plan, is it 20 for the whole plan or 20 per app
User limits are per Team, but most plans allow for purchasing exta users.
> [@Benjamin\_Sabbah](#):
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> Since unlimited user is possible with this plan, it means it will be big apps. The row limit of 25 000 is quite low in that case.
If you’re expecting more than 25,000 users, that suggests that you’re intending to build a consumer App. This is _not_ what Glide is intended for. Glide is a good choice for prototyping such an App, but if you want to put something like that into production you should choose another tool/platform.
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### Author:  [@Jarvis](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Jarvis)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/168 "2024-02-20T09:30:05Z")
> [@NoCodeAndy](#):
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> For the Team and Business plans, we’re discussing several of the ideas coming up in the forum, alongside the comments coming from customers who _aren’t_ posting here.
Hi @NoCodeAndy, looking forward to any updates to these plans 😃
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### Author:  [@Andeesh](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Andeesh)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/169 "2024-03-02T06:05:08Z")
I absolutely love Glide. It’s probably the best no code tool to exist. It has really helped my business operations. But the pricing makes no sense.
I understand the company’s main objective is for internal business tools but A LOT of people have found ways to use it beyond just as an internal tool. The personal users plans vs 25 users plans just makes no sense. Jet Admins has a better pricing structure.
I strongly believe Glide needs to be more open minded and rethink its pricing + add features that makes its target market much much bigger. Features like stripe integration, payment options etc can make Glide so much more appealing.
I have ideas to cater to a large number of users but I’m stuck because I want both professional email addresses and personal email addresses to use my app (which maker plan won’t allow and other plans have 25 user limit and then it gets too expensive)
I hope Glide rethinks their strategy. Keep making this platform awesome.
Cheers
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### Author:  [@vedran\_nincevic](https://community.glideapps.com/u/vedran_nincevic)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/updates-to-glide-s-new-plans-and-pricing/70027/170 "2024-03-03T16:27:39Z")
Glide is fantastic!
I built 2 apps with Glide, of course with help from this community.
I have 3 more ideas for apps.
But…
With new plans you moved Airtable from 25 USD/month (old Starter plan) to 125 USD/month (new Team plan)
Why?
Why don’t you allow non-tech founders/developers/freelancers to have backup database, for a normal price?
In my country (Croatia, Europe) average monthly wage is 1.000 USD, so 125 USD/month is a lot.
Non of my clients will ever pay me more than 150 USD monthly per app.
Expert program is in theory good idea, but none of my clients will never grow to the scale that I will benefit from their growth.
I really hope that you rethink plans and pricing.
Seriously searching for a new platform…
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