# Trebuchet Method Obsolete **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask for Help\ **Created:** [April 14, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334 "2025-04-14T13:43:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Levi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@Levi](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Levi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/1 "2025-04-14T13:43:11Z")
Hi, I’m relatively new to Glide and I like the idea to empower people without coding skills to launch MVPs. I’m excited to be able to build something from scratch by myself and test it. It’s very meaningful for a starter. I looked into the trebuchet method and it is there, functioning, however it doesn’t look good. I believe it’s kind of obsolete by now. In many apps it must be fulfilling a very basic task and it’s quite a shame that a user sees, even if for a split second, both buttons of for example “add item” and “remove item”. I search widely and seems there is still no new solution for this, is there? If there is can anyone help? If not it would be very beneficial for Glide community to raise this to Glide delevoping team altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/2 "2025-04-14T14:00:58Z")
The trebuchet method has its uses. What exactly are you trying to do? ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Petitto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/robert_petitto/32/25193_2.png) [@Robert\_Petitto](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Robert_Petitto)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/3 "2025-04-14T14:47:33Z")
> [@Levi](#): > > In many apps it must be fulfilling a very basic task and it’s quite a shame that a user sees, even if for a split second, both buttons of for example “add item” and “remove item”. This happens in non-trebuchet implementations as well unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Levi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@Levi](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Levi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/4 "2025-04-15T09:55:34Z")
Hi Darren, thank you for replying, appreciate it! Yes, trebuchet is very useful and probably the best method to do certain things. All I’m saying is that when clicking on the button to add or remove, it’s slow to update and the user always sees both buttons for a fraction of a second. Seeing both buttons looks rough. What I am doing is adding participants to events. ---
**Author:** ![Levi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@Levi](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Levi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 10:01am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/5 "2025-04-15T10:01:59Z")
Hi Robert, thank you for taking the time to reply. Do you think there would be any way any way (other than a simple product feedback) to escalate this to developers? Seeing both buttons looks very “glitchy” and I believe it drives users away instead of incentivising app interactions. Unfortunately, no matter how good an app can be, the front end is a very important aspect of the product/service and such a feature is a very ordinary one used virtually in most applications nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 10:21am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/6 "2025-04-15T10:21:21Z")
> [@Levi](#): > > What I am doing is adding participants to events. Are you using the array method, or the joined list method? ---
**Author:** ![Levi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@Levi](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Levi)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/7 "2025-04-16T13:03:23Z")
The array method. I might have missed the fact there are 2 versions of the trebuchet method. Can you share the link to the joined list method? I will try it if there is the chance for improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/trebuchet-method-obsolete/81334/8 "2025-04-16T14:03:34Z")
The joined list was the original. The array method became available with the multiple files column. I was just curious. I’ve used it a bit and never noticed the behaviour you have. I’ll try and replicate it, and if I can I’ll see if I can find a way to improve it.