# iOS 17.4, problem coming up? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [February 8, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632 "2024-02-08T15:28:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/21 "2024-02-17T14:26:30Z")
It’s a small number percentage wise, but people who add to home screen are the most engaged users. ---
**Author:** ![Antonino\_Nolasco](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/antonino_nolasco/32/80601_2.png) [@Antonino\_Nolasco](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Antonino_Nolasco)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/22 "2024-02-17T16:30:05Z")
Could be great a solution like PowerApps style, a Glide app to App Store with all apps inside it. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/1/9/19633bab1fde9792301eec868e42b0db2031d32a.png) @david ---
**Author:** ![mzsadiek](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/mzsadiek/32/36021_2.png) [@mzsadiek](https://community.glideapps.com/u/mzsadiek)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/23 "2024-02-18T07:27:01Z")
I think this would be a good one; there really is added value in being able to use a Glide app as a ‘regular app’ ---
**Author:** ![Gregory](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/gregory/32/21180_2.png) [@Gregory](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Gregory)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/25 "2024-02-18T08:23:59Z")
Maybe Glide could open its own alternative apps store. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Antonino\_Nolasco](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/antonino_nolasco/32/80601_2.png) [@Antonino\_Nolasco](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Antonino_Nolasco)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 8:35am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/26 "2024-02-18T08:35:32Z")
They will not do any of this for us poor Europeans. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Gregory](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/gregory/32/21180_2.png) [@Gregory](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Gregory)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/27 "2024-02-18T09:06:36Z")
Maybe there is not even a need for a new alternative app store, since the other big stores (microsoft, google) will probably try to conquer iOS in the EU and they already allow PWAs. However I don’t know Apple‘s restrictions for alternatives app stores and if apps made in Glide can easily be published in them ---
**Author:** ![maccioma](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/maccioma/32/59647_2.png) [@maccioma](https://community.glideapps.com/u/maccioma)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/28 "2024-02-18T14:57:44Z")
I’m sorry to say that, but if apps built with Glide really won’t be usable as PWAs in Europe anymore, then it would no longer make sense to consider having a subscription to use this platform (or any other that allows to build PWAs). ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/29 "2024-02-18T16:12:35Z")
Most of our customers use non-mobile layout in desktop browsers. ---
**Author:** ![maccioma](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/maccioma/32/59647_2.png) [@maccioma](https://community.glideapps.com/u/maccioma)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/30 "2024-02-18T21:10:05Z")
I didn’t mean to say that Glide will become useless, but in Europe it will lose a bit of sense, at least for mobile on iOS. Anyway I love Glide and hope a solution will be found. ---
**Author:** ![aferguson024](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/278dde/32.png) [@aferguson024](https://community.glideapps.com/u/aferguson024)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/31 "2024-02-19T15:19:29Z")
I’m assuming Apple’s recent announcement kills push notifications for Glide Apps in the EU? Source: [Apple confirms: It's killing home screen web apps in the EU | Mashable](https://mashable.com/article/apple-kills-home-screen-web-apps-pwas-in-eu-dma) ---
**Author:** ![Simon\_Hill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/simon_hill/32/94730_2.png) [@Simon\_Hill](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Simon_Hill)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:56am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/32 "2024-02-20T08:56:15Z")
I’m hoping this does not impact Switzerland or the UK. Does anyone know for sure? Switzerland is not a member of the EU but has many bi-lateral agreements to apply certain EU legislation, so there is a risk. The UK signed up to a lot of EU legislation prior to 2020 Brexit and many laws still apply. ---
**Author:** ![boerdeboer\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/boerdeboer_1/32/21708_2.png) [@boerdeboer\_1](https://community.glideapps.com/u/boerdeboer_1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/33 "2024-02-20T13:22:29Z")
a joke , right? ---
**Author:** ![Antonino\_Nolasco](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/antonino_nolasco/32/80601_2.png) [@Antonino\_Nolasco](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Antonino_Nolasco)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/34 "2024-02-20T13:23:41Z")
Unfortunately, it’s not a joke ---
**Author:** ![boerdeboer\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/boerdeboer_1/32/21708_2.png) [@boerdeboer\_1](https://community.glideapps.com/u/boerdeboer_1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/35 "2024-02-20T13:41:13Z")
I was referring to Davids remark : " Most of our customers use non-mobile layout in desktop browsers" I am familiar with the PWA issue for some weeks. It seems like there might be another issue with (home screen) PWA , causing some data loss for them, especially those in the EU who use iOS devices even in ‘mobile’ Safari browsers Just wanted to flag this as something to keep an eye on and see if there’s anything we can do to help mitigate it. Appreciate your understanding! ---
**Author:** ![Antonino\_Nolasco](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/antonino_nolasco/32/80601_2.png) [@Antonino\_Nolasco](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Antonino_Nolasco)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 7:41am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/37 "2024-02-21T07:41:01Z")
In the next few days I will install the iOS 17.4 beta to test the glide apps. ---
**Author:** ![Manu\_Marea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/manu_marea/32/21714_2.png) [@Manu\_Marea](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Manu_Marea)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/38 "2024-02-21T09:49:27Z")
yes but Apple will charge 0,50 c for every installations on alternative stores… ---
**Author:** ![Manu\_Marea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/manu_marea/32/21714_2.png) [@Manu\_Marea](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Manu_Marea)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/39 "2024-02-21T09:53:15Z")
I suppose the only way is to wrap Glide’s apps into something like natively or AppMySite or in a Webview within FlutterFlow ,Fliplet, Flipabit, Thorium builder ,Wappler or Blup to name a few , or even inside Adalo or Bravo, but its a bummer , i hope to see from Chrome and Safari a sandbox in their kit in order to restore the Pwa by Jobs first introduced, ---
**Author:** ![Fredrik\_Stoltz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/fredrik_stoltz/32/64687_2.png) [@Fredrik\_Stoltz](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Fredrik_Stoltz)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 7:20am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/40 "2024-02-28T07:20:56Z")
> **[Apple's Decision to Disable Web Apps Attracts Scrutiny in EU](https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/26/disabled-web-apps-attract-eu-scrutiny/)** > > The European Commission is considering investigating Apple's move to disable Home Screen web apps in the EU, the Financial Times reports. ... ---
**Author:** ![Official\_Giop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/official_giop/32/56387_2.png) [@Official\_Giop](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Official_Giop)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 9:14am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/41 "2024-02-28T09:14:33Z")
I’m very frustrating… I was almost at the end of developing my new app , and now this news from Apple change basically everything as I’m located in EU and most of the features of my app were based on notification ☹ ☹ ---
**Author:** ![boerdeboer\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/boerdeboer_1/32/21708_2.png) [@boerdeboer\_1](https://community.glideapps.com/u/boerdeboer_1)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632/42 "2024-03-01T16:39:53Z")
FYI 🙂 Apple will probally NOT remove PWA support on iOS > **[Update on apps distributed in the European Union - Support - Apple Developer](https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/)** > > Apple is sharing changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store impacting developers’ apps in the European Union (EU) to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA). These changes create new options for developers. ![GHmO7HsXAAAryE1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/a/8/a82fde80797bdeb42429dccc0d476f564ccd3bc9.png) [Previous page](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.glideapps.com/t/ios-17-4-problem-coming-up/70632.md?page=3)