# How "Rows Usage" is actually counted? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask for Help\ **Created:** [July 17, 2023, 8:53am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001 "2023-07-17T08:53:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 8:53am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/1 "2023-07-17T08:53:40Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/e/4/e43c7f1d4a9b2747cdfb71bf97a546da7edb0d70.png) How rows usage is actually counted? Because I try to cross check with number of rows for each sheets. The 55,869 doesn’t make senses ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 9:53am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/2 "2023-07-17T09:53:50Z")
Every row in every table that is referenced anywhere in your App is counted. ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/3 "2023-07-18T01:07:24Z")
Meaning the relation part? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/4 "2023-07-18T01:10:04Z")
If a table is referenced through a relation, then every row in that table is counted. If you want to find if a table is counted, do find uses on every column in the table. If none of them are used, rows in that table won’t be counted. ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/5 "2023-07-18T01:12:37Z")
what happen if i exceed the rows? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/6 "2023-07-18T01:15:14Z")
The Glide Police will knock down your door and steal your internet 😝 I don’t know. Some limits are enforced, and some are not. But it’s best to plan as if all limits are enforced 😉 ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:05am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/7 "2023-07-21T06:05:40Z")
I had achieved/delete thousands of rows but rows usage remain the same . How can i know that which rows consume the usage? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/4/b/4bb52db66035362c4d136d8e881772ebd298aa62.png) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/8 "2023-07-21T06:09:21Z")
> [@Darren\_Murphy](#): > > If you want to find if a table is counted, do find uses on every column in the table. If none of them are used, rows in that table won’t be counted. Once you identify which tables are referenced, you could do a rollup of all rows in each of those tables, then add them all together. ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/9 "2023-07-21T06:12:20Z")
let say we have 5 rows and 5 columns used. then, it will be counted as 25 or 5? and another question is if Table 1 we have 10 columns and 10 rows, Table 2 have 15 rows and 16 columns and both table relate to each other. how its counted? Update: According to your statement: 2nd scenario will counted as 10x15 isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/10 "2023-07-21T06:16:08Z")
> [@biha](#): > > let say we have 5 rows and 5 columns used. > then, it will be counted as 25 or 5? Columns aren’t counted, only rows. You could have 5 rows and 1 million columns, and that’s still just 5 rows. > [@biha](#): > > and another question is if Table 1 we have 10 columns and 10 rows, Table 2 have 15 rows and 16 columns and both table relate to each other. how its counted? Table 1: 10 rows Table 2: 15 rows Total: 25 rows The relations make no difference. Each row is only counted once. ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:18am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/11 "2023-07-21T06:18:27Z")
Can i do checking something like this? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/0/c/0c2fe1a5248c6e913e168a8b93ca4d74888e0969.png) Check each table, as last row number and add for each sheet? Another question, how much the time taken for them to update in “usage” page after the update made? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/12 "2023-07-21T06:20:40Z")
Yes, you could do that. That should tell you the maximum number of rows used (there could be some tables that aren’t referenced, which would reduce the count). > [@biha](#): > > Another question, how much the time taken for them to update in “usage” page after the update made? I don’t know about that. I think updates are almost real time, but I’m not sure about row count. ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/13 "2023-07-21T06:28:20Z")
I do manually and its only takes 7,000 ++ rows. How 🥲 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/b/8/b8a4b9a925313165e8508cb2f9d331d7a92e666a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 6:32am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/14 "2023-07-21T06:32:11Z")
Yes, that’s quite a big difference. If you’re sure you haven’t missed anything, then probably the best thing to do is submit a ticket with Glide Support. You can do that via Settings → Support. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Hager](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/jeff_hager/32/43_2.png) [@Jeff\_Hager](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Jeff_Hager)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:15am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/15 "2023-07-21T07:15:01Z")
Are you not using these tables? ![Screenshot_20230721-021328](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/6/d/6dbbf2d61ca12ff50b155b51ca2a51c59d1310d0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![biha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/biha/32/84110_2.png) [@biha](https://community.glideapps.com/u/biha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 7:43am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/16 "2023-07-21T07:43:21Z")
No, but there’s only a few ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/d/f/dffd0853797431d13a6ba67e9632e803ded3115c.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/6/e/6e925bd5461605d89e784ab9db3ca91838da60f4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ThinhDinh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/thinhdinh/32/49_2.png) [@ThinhDinh](https://community.glideapps.com/u/ThinhDinh)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/how-rows-usage-is-actually-counted/64001/17 "2023-07-22T02:37:16Z")
Try deleting all empty rows from all tables, check if they return, and if yes, identify which formula (specifically arrayformula) might be causing it.