# Glide Pages Suck Compared to Apps IMO **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask for Help\ **Created:** [December 30, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184 "2022-12-30T18:53:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/1 "2022-12-30T18:53:18Z")
Before Pages, I loved Glide Apps because I never had to think. Now, all I do is think about how much Pages suck compared to Apps. I don’t care how powerful Glide is if it sucks visually. Keep both products, please. ---
**Author:** ![Uzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/uzo/32/22639_2.png) [@Uzo](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Uzo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/2 "2022-12-31T00:34:35Z")
I see, I am not alone lol ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/3 "2022-12-31T04:14:10Z")
@newyorkengineer thank you for the feedback – can you give us a few pointers where you’d like to see Pages improve? “Pages suck” does not help us much! ---
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 4:40am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/4 "2022-12-31T04:40:05Z")
@david You’re right. My apologies for my frustrations. I’m aware that your focus is not empowering entrepreneurs but please reconsider! Lol, some of us might go on to produce Glide’s biggest use cases. I simply want the “See all” and “Favorites” … and 9-10 tabs at the bottom. Right now, Pages can’t compete w/ the UI of Apps!! ---
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 4:40am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/5 "2022-12-31T04:40:25Z")
@david ![Screenshot 2022-12-30 10.38.39 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/d/a/da52bb8d6a8275464e3b5400c26811029e1d63fb.png) ---
**Author:** ![nathanaelb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/nathanaelb/32/43079_2.png) [@nathanaelb](https://community.glideapps.com/u/nathanaelb)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/6 "2022-12-31T08:08:39Z")
Hi @newyorkengineer. David recently announced that Pages will probably at one point replace Apps, and for a while Apps will still be accessible as Glide Legacy/Classic. David also announced that he expects Pages to catch up to and even surpass the capabilities of Apps in the next 3 months. You seem to be aware of these announcements since you ask that Glide not discontinue Apps. I think we all need to respect these announcements and wait a few months for the upcoming Pages releases. ---
**Author:** ![Cameraville](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/cameraville/32/60231_2.png) [@Cameraville](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Cameraville)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/7 "2022-12-31T08:12:18Z")
In pages, medium or large amounts of information take up medium to large amounts of space. Apps was much more proficient at this. A small example is App’s Basic Table component vs Page’s Fields component. A desktop has width I would like take advantage of, Apps Basic Table layout makes sense here, instead Pages fields stacks the title and data - looking like a mobile-mined element on a desktop. There are many more example of this which combined all together makes it very difficult for me to convey my relevant information above-the-fold. Essentially pages seems to have taken the idea of ‘more screen’ to mean ‘let’s take up more space’, while I feel that ‘more screen’ should mean ‘more information’. I understand it’s easy for anyone to make good looking pages. I would suggest on each component a ‘show advanced’ checkbox with addition options for those experienced with UI and UX. That way it’s still easy and friendly to new users. Take a look at the level of information displayed in this ecommerce site’s ‘collection’ of iPhones. Complex yet digestible and visually appropriate due to the designers choices. (Finnish versions of Best Buy). > **[Älypuhelimet ja kännykät - Gigantti verkkokauppa](https://www.gigantti.fi/puhelimet-tabletit-ja-alykellot/puhelimet)** > > Parhaat puhelimet, älypuhelimet, matkapuhelimet, kännykät Gigantista! Tutustu laajaan valikoimaamme ja valitse suosikkisi! In my Pages, I have reverted to mostly Slide In screens because I really fail to be able to take advantage of the full screen with the given elements. I have quite a heavy database I have built over 10 months, I have it represented on Apps and Pages if you’d like to take a look. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Petitto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/robert_petitto/32/25193_2.png) [@Robert\_Petitto](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Robert_Petitto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/8 "2022-12-31T13:02:20Z")
> [@Cameraville](#): > > makes it very difficult for me to convey my relevant information above-the-fold. I agree with this. Currently, Glide Pages requires me to slow down and attempt to find the “perfect” combination of components, containers and layouts so that the UX and UI look beautiful and purposeful for both Mobile and Full Width views. A layout that works well in one view might look wrong in the other. Once Glide releases new components/designs for Glide Pages (basic table, links, horizontal scroll, better title layouts, etc), it should be better. ---
**Author:** ![Uzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/uzo/32/22639_2.png) [@Uzo](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Uzo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/9 "2022-12-31T13:50:21Z")
1. Make CSS like it is in Apps. 2. Full width… no margins. 3. Adjustable size for all components and fonts. 4. Fixed components, that will stay in one X, Y position. 5. Select elements in the editor, for easy finding. 6. Improve speed (Pages are much slower than Apps) 7. Display fetch JSON values (right now, it only shows in the editor… in real view, it will show only when I edit values… after refreshing… all data disappear) 8. Add icons to buttons and other elements. 9. scale elements according to a screen resolution. 10. Add more columns to containers… minimum 8, so we can do custom calendars, Glide calendar sucks! 11. Horizontal, scrolling list. that’s all… and I will move to Pages, with all my projects and customers. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/10 "2022-12-31T17:32:09Z")
> [@Uzo](#): > > - Make CSS like it is in Apps. > - Full width… no margins. > - Adjustable size for all components and fonts. > - Fixed components, that will stay in one X, Y position. > - Select elements in the editor, for easy finding. Uzo, can you add this to [This Post about Pages Features](https://community.glideapps.com/t/pages-missing-components/56093?) ?? ---
**Author:** ![Uzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/uzo/32/22639_2.png) [@Uzo](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Uzo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/11 "2022-12-31T17:46:30Z")
You add it… they don’t like me 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mns\_Glide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/mns_glide/32/2514_2.png) [@Mns\_Glide](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Mns_Glide)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 6:38am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/12 "2023-01-01T06:38:45Z")
it is confirmed that pages will replace apps? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 6:54am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/13 "2023-01-01T06:54:52Z")
You should watch this: > [@Recording: Gliding into the New Year tada](https://community.glideapps.com/t/recording-gliding-into-the-new-year/55482): > > Hello Gliders! wave We wrapped 2022 with our Gliding into the New Year meetup. Glide co-founder & CEO @david covered: Highlights & milestones of the past year A look ahead to 2023, with a sneak peek at work in progress Answering as many of your questions as we can Thank you to everyone who joined us! Here are the highlights: [[Gliding into the New Year 2022 (in 9 minutes)] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ELWUuaiGjA)[You can also watch the full replay on YouTube.](https://youtu.be/F5pXIZy71Oo) Have any questions or comments? Drop them below! ---
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 7:09am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/14 "2023-01-01T07:09:59Z")
There wasn’t a clear answer. Quite vague. I’m fine with them not providing support any longer but hope they don’t kill the product completely. Too many me too products out there already. Simplicity ultimately wins. Let Unqork be Unqork. Bubble be Bubble. Etc. 😒 ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 7:17am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/15 "2023-01-01T07:17:45Z")
It’s perfectly clear to me. Pages is the future of Glide. Pretty much the first thing that David says about what’s in store in 2023 (at [4:00](https://youtu.be/_ELWUuaiGjA?t=240) in the video) is that Glide will complete the transition from Apps to Pages. If you watch the [full video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5pXIZy71Oo), you’ll see that David goes into much greater detail about what this actually means for existing Apps. ---
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 7:31am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/16 "2023-01-01T07:31:35Z")
I watched the entire video. 🗑 Lol… I’ll just use the product they’re aiming to become… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 7:45am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/17 "2023-01-01T07:45:51Z")
So if you watched the full video, what was vague about it, and what wasn’t there a clear answer to? ---
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/18 "2023-01-01T07:53:46Z")
Exactly how long Apps will still be available after it’s labeled “Classic” … 3 months? 6 months? A year?? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Murphy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darren_murphy/32/47326_2.png) [@Darren\_Murphy](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Darren_Murphy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/19 "2023-01-01T08:35:35Z")
That question was answered in the Q&A at [37:20](https://youtu.be/F5pXIZy71Oo?t=2238). The answer was at least a year. ---
**Author:** ![newyorkengineer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/newyorkengineer/32/91527_2.png) [@newyorkengineer](https://community.glideapps.com/u/newyorkengineer)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 8:40am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184/20 "2023-01-01T08:40:36Z")
Great. Thanks. I guess I didn’t watch it in its full entirety. [Next page](https://community.glideapps.com/t/glide-pages-suck-compared-to-apps-imo/56184.md?page=2)