# Chat and Comments using the Trebuchet Method **URL:** \ **Category:** Project Showcase\ **Created:** [April 10, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396 "2021-04-10T16:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PabloMFalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/pablomfalero/32/31166_2.png) [@PabloMFalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/PabloMFalero)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/1 "2021-04-10T16:21:52Z")
Hey Gliders, so using the Trebuchet Method created by @Robert_Petitto and @Lucas_Pires , @SantiagoPerez and I went a step further and created a chat and comments section that will no count towards your number of rows. Most of the credits go to the creators of this method, we just spiced it up!!! šŸ™‚ Hope everyone likes the idea!! https://player.vimeo.com/video/535271331 ---
**Author:** ![alfonso\_ayala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/alfonso_ayala/32/10862_2.png) [@alfonso\_ayala](https://community.glideapps.com/u/alfonso_ayala)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/2 "2021-04-10T17:08:42Z")
nice one šŸ‘ ---
**Author:** ![PabloMFalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/pablomfalero/32/31166_2.png) [@PabloMFalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/PabloMFalero)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/3 "2021-04-10T17:19:07Z")
Now we need to find out if thereā€™s a limit on the amount of information we can put in one cell. @david are there any limitations? ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Petitto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/robert_petitto/32/25193_2.png) [@Robert\_Petitto](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Robert_Petitto)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/4 "2021-04-10T18:17:34Z")
According to @Jason you can store 1 million characters in a glide table cell. Google sheets limited to 50,000 characters per cell ---
**Author:** ![PabloMFalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/pablomfalero/32/31166_2.png) [@PabloMFalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/PabloMFalero)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/5 "2021-04-10T18:18:47Z")
Thatā€™s very limited if it comes to a chat thenā€¦bad times LOL. Thanks for the info Robert ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Petitto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/robert_petitto/32/25193_2.png) [@Robert\_Petitto](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Robert_Petitto)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/6 "2021-04-10T18:22:45Z")
Yes thereā€™s lots of use cases for the trebuchet method. The limitations are that it doesnā€™t do well with lengthy content nor does it allow you to easily correlate two values per submission. For example if Iā€™m using it to track user check-ins at various locations, I can track email addresses and I can track timestamps but I canā€™t easily track which users checked in at those timestamps independently. ---
**Author:** ![PabloMFalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/pablomfalero/32/31166_2.png) [@PabloMFalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/PabloMFalero)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/7 "2021-04-10T18:44:46Z")
Always good to know these limitations, yet the method is sick šŸ˜€ ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Hager](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/jeff_hager/32/43_2.png) [@Jeff\_Hager](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Jeff_Hager)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/8 "2021-04-11T17:50:28Z")
I had been mulling over something like this for the community built messenger thread. Just never got around to it. I had the same concerns about maximum character limits for the cell size, but now itā€™s good to know what those limits are. Nice to see something like this in action. ---
**Author:** ![AyS\_0908](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/ays_0908/32/27349_2.png) [@AyS\_0908](https://community.glideapps.com/u/AyS_0908)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/9 "2021-04-29T16:51:02Z")
@PabloMFalero canā€™t wait for the user guide to replicate it! Well done! ---
**Author:** ![PabloMFalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/pablomfalero/32/31166_2.png) [@PabloMFalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/PabloMFalero)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/10 "2021-04-29T17:40:43Z")
Hey, sorry Iā€™ve been extremely busy, Iā€™ll make a video next week!!! ---
**Author:** ![Harry\_OBrien](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/harry_obrien/32/14485_2.png) [@Harry\_OBrien](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Harry_OBrien)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/11 "2021-05-22T18:19:41Z")
Hi Pablo, any progress on this? Desperate to replicate this! ---
**Author:** ![PabloMFalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/pablomfalero/32/31166_2.png) [@PabloMFalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/PabloMFalero)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/12 "2021-05-24T10:02:28Z")
Hope it helps https://player.vimeo.com/video/554209840 Codes: P: Profile pic E: Temporary commenter (Current userā€™s name) {usc} D: Current date and time {usc} N: Temporary comment {usc} (Text entry component) V: Lookup column rel\_RowID Row ID Comment ``` P E D

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V ``` Profile Picture ```

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**Author:** ![Harry\_OBrien](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/harry_obrien/32/14485_2.png) [@Harry\_OBrien](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Harry_OBrien)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/13 "2021-05-24T11:02:38Z")
Thanks Pablo! Nice work ---
**Author:** ![AyS\_0908](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/ays_0908/32/27349_2.png) [@AyS\_0908](https://community.glideapps.com/u/AyS_0908)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/14 "2021-05-25T18:22:47Z")
Hi @Lucas_Pires @Robert_Petitto, not sure if my question is relevant given that I did not go deep in Trebuchet (yetā€¦): - is the idea of the TrebuPiresPetitto to store all messages in 1 cell? - if yes, is it correct that this cell cannot store more than 1 million characters for all messages? - if yes, would it mean that, taking macro assumptions, the app allows maximum: 1 M. / 8 (?) characters per word / 10 (?) words per sentence / 2 (?) sentences per message / 100 (?) users = magnitude of 50-100 messages I am sure that I did understandā€¦ **wrong** šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Pires](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/lucas_pires/32/64863_2.png) [@Lucas\_Pires](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Lucas_Pires)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/15 "2021-05-25T18:38:37Z")
Iā€™ll let mr @Robert_Petitto tell who he achieved that lol ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Petitto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/robert_petitto/32/25193_2.png) [@Robert\_Petitto](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Robert_Petitto)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/16 "2021-05-25T18:57:38Z")
> [@AyS\_0908](#): > > - is the idea of the TrebuPiresPetitto to store all messages in 1 cell? > - if yes, is it correct that this cell cannot store more than 1 million characters for all messages? > - if yes, would it mean that, taking macro assumptions, the app allows maximum: 1 M. / 8 (?) characters per word / 10 (?) words per sentence / 2 (?) sentences per message / 100 (?) users = magnitude of 50-100 messages > > I am sure that I did understandā€¦ **wrong** šŸ™‚ This is correct. This is why I havenā€™t used the Trebuchet method for chatsā€¦that was @SantiagoPerez I mainly use it for email addresses ~40chars per email address = ~25k email addresses ---
**Author:** ![SantiagoPerez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/santiagoperez/32/16807_2.png) [@SantiagoPerez](https://community.glideapps.com/u/SantiagoPerez)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/17 "2021-05-25T20:05:24Z")
We just did this as a fun idea to go a step further with @Lucas_Pires and @Robert_Petittoā€™s idea but the limitations makes it unscalable. Besides, comments seem to not add to the row count which makes having all the comments in one cell not a real solution to be adapted. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Pires](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/lucas_pires/32/64863_2.png) [@Lucas\_Pires](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Lucas_Pires)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/18 "2021-05-25T20:11:04Z")
yeah, Iā€™ve already tried thisā€¦ this makes it impracticable ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Friesen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/matt_friesen/32/2388_2.png) [@Matt\_Friesen](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Matt_Friesen)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/19 "2024-05-29T17:56:37Z")
Do you know if the comments/ chat component now (in 2024) contribute to row count? ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Hager](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/jeff_hager/32/43_2.png) [@Jeff\_Hager](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Jeff_Hager)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/chat-and-comments-using-the-trebuchet-method/25396/20 "2024-05-29T18:31:26Z")
> [@Matt\_Friesen](#): > > contribute to row count? Yes it does, because its just normal data stored in a table.