# 🆕 All-New Team Plans to Be Announced Next Week **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [April 15, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767 "2022-04-15T17:53:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/42 "2022-04-17T15:34:07Z")
The core pricing dilemma at hand is the tension between two kinds of customers: ## The Business Customer They have a specific problem to solve for 100-1,000 users. They are willing to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to solve it. ## The NoCode Entrepreneur They have a big idea for a new app, and they expect an unlimited number of users – 10,000 to millions. They expect to spend as little as possible until their app takes off and can monetize (99.9% of these kind of apps fail to take off). Optimal pricing for the first group prohibits the second group; optimal pricing for the second group captures no value from the first group. In fact, I would say a great business cannot be built for the second type because of the high failure rate, low willingness to pay, and in the success case, the platform is just reselling cloud resources on very small margins. The billion software developers that we want to create is a reference to the billion spreadsheet users that exist today, not a billion entrepreneurs building marketplaces or subscription content apps. This is a third customer type–not a business, not an entrepreneur–these are empowered individuals solving real problems with Glide, and most of them can use our Free tier! ---
**Author:** ![erwblo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/erwblo/32/75_2.png) [@erwblo](https://community.glideapps.com/u/erwblo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/43 "2022-04-17T15:41:22Z")
I think there is a different kind of customer too, the one that wants to make something valuable for its niche community of family, friends, club members, etcetera. So not with money (making money / reducing costs) in mind. With the billion in mind, I hope they won’t be forgotten! The free version might be cool for them. And of course I do understand you need to make money. ---
**Author:** ![gvalero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/gvalero/32/1037_2.png) [@gvalero](https://community.glideapps.com/u/gvalero)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/44 "2022-04-17T15:45:34Z")
> [@david](#): > > Our Pro plan will include 5,000 public users per month for $99. Hi David, Does it mean 5,000 different public users or 5.000 registers (rows) to count the public users logged into App ? Gracias ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/45 "2022-04-17T15:48:04Z")
> [@gvalero](#): > > Does it mean 5,000 different public users or 5.000 registers (rows) It is 5,000 users–I am not talking about rows, I am talking about people using your app. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/46 "2022-04-17T16:11:29Z")
> [@david](#): > > If you have 5,000 subscribers logging into your content app each month Hi David, I fall into the category of customers that @erwblo is referring to. This is not a speculative app (as you say), but is content meant for a particular group of users – who will not be paying. The problem is not the pricepoint, per se, but, yes, I did think I could make a content-sharing app at a reasonable price that could then enrich the lives of others. My main shock was, “when my user level hits that point, I need to a) come up with thousands of dollars per year or b) rewrite the app in something else (which will cost me thousands in labor.” Understand that with this type of app (and I’ve seen it even on the beta end – I’m only 5 months into development – you have users who sign up, use it for a few weeks and then drop off. But Glide gives us no way to track user activity. No “last login” date, etc. In fact, one of the things I’ve had to try to program into my app is an activity date, and update that date when they (the user) do anything. In that way I was hoping to be able to purge inactive users from time-to-time. That actually took up a big part of the development. I’m not looking to get something for nothing, but there are tools out there that advertise on their first page, “no user limit”. The app I’m developing is for a group of people that currently has 30K+ members. No, they won’t all download the app. My guess is perhaps 20% will download it, and only 10% will be regular users. But again, how to handle inactive users… I guess what you’re telling me is I’m not big enough for Glide to care about, so I should look elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/47 "2022-04-17T16:16:27Z")
> [@David\_Gabler](#): > > only 10% will be regular users So, 3k monthly users fits into our $99/mo plan. If this is too expensive for you, then yes, according to our new pricing, Glide is not for you. Is that the case? What do you expect to pay? Do all users need to sign in? If not, visitors are free and unlimited on all plans. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/48 "2022-04-17T16:24:39Z")
> [@david](#): > > Do all users need to sign in? If not, visitors are free and unlimited on all plans. To get value from this particular app they need to be signed in. Again, the point is not the 3K – that is not too expensive. What is the unknown is then at what point do I need to re-write the app if I cannot take care of the inactive signed-in user issue? I don’t want to have to go up a tier every time my total user count exceeds (x), because by that point, many of those users may be inactive. Do you see the issue? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/49 "2022-04-17T16:25:15Z")
We only count active users, so, no, I don’t see the issue. Inactive users don’t count. If you need more than 5k active users per month, you can upgrade to Business. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/50 "2022-04-17T16:26:03Z")
> [@david](#): > > We only count active users, so, no What is an “active user”, then? Is it a user in my user table or someone actively logged in? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/51 "2022-04-17T16:27:24Z")
One active user is a person who actually signs into your app in a given month. I am talking about people using your app, not rows in your user table. If you have 10k users in your users table, and only 1k people sign in, you have 1k users that month. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/52 "2022-04-17T16:28:47Z")
> [@david](#): > > If you have 10k users in your users table, and only 1k people sign in, you have 1k users that month. Thank you for that clarification. That helps tremendously. I have been waiting for the new pricing guidelines for a while to determine steps forward. Your answer means I don’t need to worry about tracking user activity myself (well, except to be able to handle row purging for inactive users’ data) ---
**Author:** ![Manikandan\_R](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/manikandan_r/32/43482_2.png) [@Manikandan\_R](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Manikandan_R)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/53 "2022-04-17T16:31:30Z")
Needs clarification like this will help a lot.kudos to @david and kudos to @David_Gabler for raising these type os questions. ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/54 "2022-04-17T16:36:15Z")
Do you think these explanations make sense? How can we improve them? ## Public Users ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/4/6/46a216e6f67f315ce41b0917748fbd5f903d5984.jpeg) ## Private Users ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/4/f/4f634e40e849f0b553c02cfbcd9a2888b0e03945.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/55 "2022-04-17T16:38:58Z")
> [@david](#): > > How can we improve them? I would only add the sentence, “If a user does not log in during a month, they do not count towards the user count for that month.” ---
**Author:** ![erwblo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/erwblo/32/75_2.png) [@erwblo](https://community.glideapps.com/u/erwblo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/56 "2022-04-17T16:39:48Z")
> From what I could gather from very early on, their main focus is enterprises that are looking for a productivity tool. There were even templates to make your own Instagram clone though. But then again, a company is of course free in changing direction / target audience. ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/57 "2022-04-17T16:41:12Z")
There’s nothing to sell to someone who merely copies an Instagram app! That is not a customer, and we have a Free tier for them. Here is our original pitch from winter 2019, where we explain that the business opportunity for Glide is demonstrated by enterprises spending $7.1B on internal apps in 2021. We have not changed direction, but I admit it’s confusing that our product is meant for everyone, but we do not view everyone as our paying customer. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/a/c/acf66fae47c95fdb5ef99efdd7f86f0d7a7636c2.jpeg "Glide Demo Day YC W19") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2vkZxXPtqE) ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gabler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david_gabler/32/44332_2.png) [@David\_Gabler](https://community.glideapps.com/u/David_Gabler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/58 "2022-04-17T16:45:47Z")
But then there’s this. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/a/d/adb4aa9a400ce1a3ef8d4af5f64615da527da23f.png) My app uses Row Owners. That’s not the same as roles re: counting as Private Users, correct? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/59 "2022-04-17T16:46:06Z")
Row Owners and Roles are separate features, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Dilon\_Perera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/dilon_perera/32/85652_2.png) [@Dilon\_Perera](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Dilon_Perera)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/60 "2022-04-17T16:46:15Z")
I love that Glide CEO ( David ) is online and answering these questions faster! ❤ That’s cool! ---
**Author:** ![Luther](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/luther/32/17929_2.png) [@Luther](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Luther)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767/61 "2022-04-17T16:46:26Z")
I am sure that was to showcase the versatility of the tool. I believe with this pricing model, there is something for everyone and I can actually feel comfortable because somehow Glide’s business model kinda makes sense and for me that tells me that they will be sustainable and will be around for sometime in the foreseeable future. [Previous page](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-to-be-announced-next-week/40767.md?page=4)