# 🆕 All-New Team Plans Coming Thursday, April 21st **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [April 19, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912 "2022-04-19T22:47:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Carbonsquare](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/carbonsquare/32/55224_2.png) [@Carbonsquare](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Carbonsquare)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/223 "2022-04-28T15:50:26Z")
This is absolutely my “Concern” as well as I posted my MVP app example yesterday. It seems this “Less for More” model is being driven by some new pressures for more profitability. Not mad at Glide one bit, but we just need a balance for existing customers to stay on-board. Updates are our #1 need, followed by Whitelabeling & Public User count. **My Concerns with the New Plans:** 1. Capping my Public Signed-in with Email Users vs. current “Unlimited” allowances 2. Charging additional for Whitelabelling that by default comes with a paid ProApp 3. Flexibility in turning on/off monthly billing per app and getting refunded for remaining unused months 4. Combining ALL app sheet edits together where originally “Unlimited” in ProApp ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_San](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/dan_san/32/24085_2.png) [@Dan\_San](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Dan_San)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/224 "2022-04-28T16:01:10Z")
The new pricing is very attractive the static app users, its great if your data doesn’t need to change (directories, information, listings, etc…) if you don’t need to worry about branding and hence unlimited app/pages with 25,000 rows per app. you can have 99 apps for $99. It will push away the more interactive/automation apps where I think the bigger market and the real value of low-code is. The advanced apps using API/webhooks to build enterprise apps etc… will find it too expensive. I have no problem in paying for edits, but the $10/1000 is extremely expensive. A more balanced pricing scheme should look at apps, users, rows, updates e.g $99 per month gives you: 10 apps (branded is + $10/app) 100 private users (across all apps) (plus $10 for additional 50 users) 1000 public users (across all apps) (plus $10 for additional 200 users) 50,000 edits (across all apps) (plus $10 for 10,000 edits) 20,000 rows (total across all apps) (plus $10 for additional 1000 rows ) The numbers can change, but the structure would be much fairer at pricing for fair value obtained. In the current pricing the static APPs seem to be heavily compensated. ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/225 "2022-04-28T16:21:35Z")
@Dan_San this model isn’t fair nor for static apps or pages as every single server hit counts at least as 1 sync. It’s absolutely crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Luther](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/luther/32/17929_2.png) [@Luther](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Luther)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/226 "2022-04-28T16:41:24Z")
In light of the recent comments about updates, I am guessing that most are only realising now that it’s actually a limiting factor in terms of the plans. I flagged this about 6 days ago and made a suggestion to the Glide team and I am hoping they will take a serious look at it. > [@new All-New Team Plans Coming Thursday, April 21st](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/89): > > Hi Guys, I have a question or a concern if I may say so with regards to the updates. I think the team plans are a great initiative and will take Glide to a new level however I am concerned about the number of updates on each plan except the Free plan. From what I can observe the free plan seems to be getting more in terms of updates compared to other plans and yet the other plans have to pay a fee. If we look at the ratio of public users alone, never mind the private users just for clarity s… The ratio of Users to updates should be closely looked at and adjusted to be in line with the Free plan. For the free plan you get to have 100 Users at 1000 updates. So to take the Starter plan in line with that then the updates should be increased to 10 000 updates (1000 Users: 10 000 updates) Pro should be adjusted to 50 000 update Business should be 100 000 updates. This will be in line with the Free plan updates. This makes sense for both the business and the users. Please Glide team, consider these suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_San](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/dan_san/32/24085_2.png) [@Dan\_San](https://community.glideapps.com/u/Dan_San)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/227 "2022-04-28T16:47:35Z")
@darder I don’t understand. I thought sync was data sync between Google Sheets and glide tables. Are you suggesting the each http GET is a sync ? I don’t that is true, please expand. ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/228 "2022-04-28T16:54:28Z")
I’m pretty sure it does. Every single http GET count as 1 sync. I invite you to check it out. I did. At least in an MyAirtable integration. ---
**Author:** ![DJP](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/djp/32/62545_2.png) [@DJP](https://community.glideapps.com/u/DJP)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/229 "2022-04-28T17:13:13Z")
Hey, Joseph! Will DM you for details Have you checked out our new Non-profit and Educator plan? The Typeform is listed in our Pricing FAQs. Direct link to Typeform here: [Glide for Non-profits and Educators](https://glide.typeform.com/to/PFmvEk0w) ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/230 "2022-04-28T17:15:17Z")
> [@jorgeleon](#): > > When you get funding, you _normally_ get told what to do with your business by people who didn’t run the business in the first place. > > It seems this is what’s happening because I don’t get how David and his people could even came up with the idea of these updates limits. They are not reasonable from a user standpoint. This pricing was entirely our invention, and did not come from outside. The #1 thing that drives our costs is data updates. We have two options to make our business work: 1. Charge per app _user_ 2. Charge for app _use_ #1 is just a proxy for #2, and was extremely unpopular when we tested it (e.g. pay $2/month for every user of your app). We want Glide to work as a long-term business, so at the very least, our pricing model needs to reflect our costs. Today we have many apps that cost us hundreds of dollars per month to host due to data update volume, yet they are on a $30/month plan with unlimited updates. What would you do in this situation? We will continue to refine the model (which updates are counted, how many are included, how they are priced at volume), but I am pretty confident that this is the right structure. Ideally, the pricing model correlates to the value for customers, and we can’t find a better correlation of value than data updates. There is a real cost for running software that updates data. We cannot pretend this cost doesn’t exist! We apologize that our traditional pricing pretended that unlimited data updates could have a fixed cost. ---
**Author:** ![DJP](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/djp/32/62545_2.png) [@DJP](https://community.glideapps.com/u/DJP)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/231 "2022-04-28T17:15:17Z")
Sorry for the delay! Google Analytics is available on Pro team plans and higher ---
**Author:** ![DJP](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/djp/32/62545_2.png) [@DJP](https://community.glideapps.com/u/DJP)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/232 "2022-04-28T17:18:51Z")
Hey, Jose! One thing to keep in mind from earlier in the thread: > [@DJP](#): > > With the new team plans, we have rolled out a Usage page as well that you can start using to estimate the number of Updates your team consumes. Please note that the Updates shown will be slightly higher than what will be counted in the coming months as we do not plan on counting (a) editing in the Builder and (b) Updates used by unpublished projects ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/233 "2022-04-28T17:23:38Z")
David I agree with you that the new updates based pricing model should be fair as it reflects your costs, but counting every single http GET as 1 sync it’s crazy. In just three hours after creating a new page in the starter plan I spend more than 10% of my starter quota. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/9/1/91db774e65ca5c3137ccb555b4e4aadd902f9e61.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/234 "2022-04-28T17:24:28Z")
> [@darder](#): > > counting every single http GET as 1 sync it’s crazy We are not charging for http GET–we are charging for syncing every single cell in your Google Sheet, for example, which is expensive. > [@darder](#): > > In just three hours after creating a new page in the starter plan I spend more than 10% of my starter quota. As @DJP said, we plan to not count updates made while working on your app in the builder (which triggers many more updates than simply using your app). This change is coming soon, and update limits are not yet enforced. ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/235 "2022-04-28T17:25:40Z")
So do we have to pay now for this non projected consumption? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/236 "2022-04-28T17:26:13Z")
Update limits are not currently enforced (nothing happens if you go over the limits). ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/237 "2022-04-28T17:27:50Z")
Ok thanks. That answer helps a lot. I would like you to check if http GET isn’t really counting. I made some test and in my opinion it does. At least in my Airtable integrated page. ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/238 "2022-04-28T17:42:23Z")
David look at this. Without doing anything my sync updates continues growing all by himself without any reason to do it. it’s very scary ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/glideapps/original/3X/e/5/e5d4158f0ef6fc98187af902f08918b59ef353c6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/239 "2022-04-28T17:43:26Z")
> [@darder](#): > > In just three hours after creating a new page in the starter plan I spend more than 10% of my starter quota. @darder another issue here, is that Airtable (unlike Google Sheets and Excel) does not tell Glide about changes, so we have to check your Airtable base every 3 minutes while your app is running, causing 1 update every 3 minutes. Airtable is giving us access to their new Webhooks API in the coming months, so Glide will not need to check every 3 minutes, and will only perform an update when your Airtable base is actually edited _and_ your app is running. Your updates are increasing while you have your Airtable app open in the builder for this reason (Glide considers your app to be running). ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/240 "2022-04-28T17:46:14Z")
Ok. I understand. So I guess you won’t be charging for this Airtable syncing issue during this months prior to the API upgrade. Right? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/david/32/62831_2.png) [@david](https://community.glideapps.com/u/david)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/241 "2022-04-28T17:47:03Z")
> [@darder](#): > > So I guess you won’t be charging for this Airtable syncing issue during this months prior to the API upgrade. Right? No, we will likely enforce update overages before that is ready. If this is unacceptable to you, please wait to use Airtable until that is in place. We will fix the updates counted when editing in the builder before turning on enforcement, yes. ---
**Author:** ![darder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/community.glideapps.com/darder/32/12788_2.png) [@darder](https://community.glideapps.com/u/darder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.glideapps.com/t/all-new-team-plans-coming-thursday-april-21st/40912/242 "2022-04-28T17:48:18Z")
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